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Gfy Trextron
Soul Takers
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Posted - 2014.09.20 03:04:00 -
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While I was not on for this, it has come to my attention one of our corp members has been perma banned. With CCP flip flopping over everything I would like an opinion from the elected CSM members. THIS IS NOT ABOUT CYNO BUMPING.
The simple question is, Is this titan fair game to bump? http://clip2net.com/s/iTZKyX
The nose is clearly out of the pos and doing 0ms.
It was then bumped (by the part out of the shields) out with tornados and killed.
CCP has since returned the titan and permabanned one of our pilots.
If there is a rule about ships out of shields, I would like to see it. If CCP's logs show something (for the first time ever) outside of my understanding of the events, I would like the CSM to be notified of what they show and posted here.
This way we all have a better understanding of what the CCP rules are (for today) on this issue.
Gfy "goofy" Soul Takers CEO
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Gfy Trextron
Soul Takers
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Posted - 2014.09.24 02:43:00 -
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5 days and no word publicly from CCP. Only the original ban and the denial of the first reply to the ban. No word from the CSM. The only info that we have in writing is that he was banned because the ship was not lockable. And not a single piece of published information that supports any exploit revolving around ships being lockable.
I understand that we are a small insignificant corp, but this is completely unreasonable in any sense of the term. Currently inside includes outside and banable offence only applies to small groups "when the logs show nothing". |
Gfy Trextron
Soul Takers
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Posted - 2014.09.24 22:27:00 -
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Well I would like to thank a CSM for making a reply. At least I know one of them is alive.
As the debaters and politicians of eve debate over all of the debatable things, I would like to point out that my only question was "Is this titan fair to bump". The overwhelming response from the community has been yes. But no word from CCP to clarify.
The reason it was asked in this forum is that most of eve is under the impression the only real purpose of the csm is to voice major player community issues to CCP and help to resolve them. This is all I have asked for. I in no way expect the CSM to be responsible for getting Aglon unbanned.
What I expect from the csm is to:
1) Confirm that Aglon was banned for bumping this Titan out of the POS shields in a manner a large portion of the community considers fair gameplay. 2) Provide the community with clear details of why it was illegal, where it is stated, and when it was posted.
The previous postings that only state "IN a POS" are unacceptable (Since we understand this one to be out of the pos), unless detailed information is included that states what constitutes as "IN" other than the obvious assumption of at least the model being 100% inside.
If I unzip and have 5% of my thing poking through my zipper and grab it, is it in my pants or in my hand? Most people would argue hand or both, not just pants.
The arbitrary ban of Aglon without questioning, proof, or even a stated policy to be broken, only indicates that CCP has no stable policy on customer relations. And I do not feel that any of us are surprised by that.
I would assume that straightening out the clarification on the banable offence would either justify or reverse it. |
Gfy Trextron
Soul Takers
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Posted - 2014.09.25 04:43:00 -
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Did you escalate your ticket to a Senior GM? Do it, if you haven't.[/quote]
Senior GM said you have our previous response and closed the ticket |
Gfy Trextron
Soul Takers
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Posted - 2014.10.01 14:17:00 -
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Aglon has received a reply and was reduced to a 30 day ban. (Still Horse ****)
His letter states
"POS Bowling' is not a single exploit but an umbrella term covering a variety of different methods which achieve the same goal: bumping a ship out of the confines of a starbase forcefield. Utilization of any of these variants is considered a very serious breach of the EULA/ToS."
They further state stuff about not being clear on circumstances, so giving him the benefit of the doubt, yada yada.
So, is this the latest rule? NO ship bumping unless lockable first? Still no clear post or word from CCP to the community.
I will write off the lack of banning of the 0.0 guys as typical CCP favoritism.
Gfy (Goofy)
P.S. Thanks for all of the support and effort put into this by so many people. |
Gfy Trextron
Soul Takers
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Posted - 2014.10.01 18:03:00 -
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Eldwinn wrote:Fellsworn wrote:Glad to hear Aglon will have the option to come back if he still wants to.
I'm not sure if anyone has gained any knowledge on the issue though. I actually have a few more questions now that Aglon's sentence has been reduced and what that may mean.
Unfortunately no. The question was never answered. The point of the thread was to clarify upon the vague documentation about bumping a ship that is inside of a POS. I am glad to see that Algon had his ban reduced. Then again though I feel like the point of the thread was overlooked. For any CCP members or GM members lurking in the thread or maybe monitoring the thread the question was, "The player was notified that if the ship is not lockable then it is in the POS. Can someone please show me the rule, post, etc. that states this?"
I agree. Having seen the mail sent to Aglon, I can say the latest official response "to one player" is that unless it is lockable, it is banable.
Now if they would just post that someplace for everyone the rule would be clear. Completely stupid but clear. Nice to know I can now bridge people with 40% of a titan sticking out of the POS and be safe. Make sense right? FFS
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Gfy Trextron
Soul Takers
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Posted - 2014.10.03 05:06:00 -
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Thank you for the reply.
That answers all of my questions asked.
I personally appreciate the public apology for the circumstances, our corp member is happy to be playing again.
Gfy
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Gfy Trextron
Soul Takers
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Posted - 2014.10.03 05:06:45 -
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Thank you for the reply.
That answers all of my questions asked.
I personally appreciate the public apology for the circumstances, our corp member is happy to be playing again.
Gfy
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